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Originally Posted by CampbellsTransgressions

Intentionally delaying a $15 billion project for 2 years while hundreds of thousands of Canadians are facing job losses or already out of work is a problem. But it's okay, Trudeau would rather borrow $15 billion and spend it on inefficient government projects.

Trudeau's job isn't to find employment opportunities for Albertans at the expense of the policies he's proposing benefit Canada as a whole. Like I said, he was elected with a mandate to go after GHGs. You can debate whether his proposals actually will achieve that, but you honestly couldn't really expect him to get into office and go "Welp, nothing can be done. Better keep the status quo."

Consult with First Nations, fine. But even six months is way too long of a consultation period, especially when you're putting their needs ahead of those that are suffering right now.

Why? If it's going through their territory then they have every right to be consulted on it in a meaningful manner. Putting a time constraint on it and planning to ram it through regardless of their concerns isn't meaningful consultation. The narrative that we have the right to demand FN communities accept our pipelines is completely colonialist.

A majority of provinces are behind Energy East. In fact, even the Quebec Premier is in favour of it. Why isn't the project being grandfathered?

It isn't? Sounds like some environmental groups are upset because Energy East is getting fastracked through the new process, despite not being approved by the NEB yet.

Because it's their agenda. They are out to kill the oil sands. Call me delusional all you want, but as far as I can see, they just gave themselves more power to kill pipelines and more power to kill train terminals. Why are they concerned with the GHG emissions of oilsands, from a pipeline context? Because they want to KILL the oil sands.

It sounds like their agenda is to address the concerns leftover from the Harper days.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/envi...ines-1.3422129

The Liberals contend their Conservative predecessors interfered in the independent board's affairs in order to push pipeline projects through faster.

The government's announcement comes on the heels of a new audit report by Canada's environment watchdog that found the NEB failed to follow through and adequately track the compliance of pipeline companies with the conditions set for their projects.

Green Party Leader Elizabeth May said the current environmental review process is completely broken after 10 years of Stephen Harper as prime minister.

"We're still in the difficult space of fixing what Harper broke," May said. "It's a bogus, sham process."

The B.C. MP said that the environmental assessment process was "wrecked" when the Harper government handed regulatory review to the NEB, a body that "never" considered climate change or greenhouse gas emissions in its review of projects.

May added that the NEB has approved 98 per cent of all pipeline projects and largely ignored interveners such as environmental groups and indigenous peoples.

I know May isn't anyone's favourite but she's pretty much echoing stories I've heard from people who work for the NEB, that their hands were basically tied from doing any sort of meaningful review.

EDIT: I should add that no one is happy that Albertans are out of work, but people are not going to be willing to sacrifice their longterm visions for the future of the country because Albertans are out of work. The prevailing sentiment behind this is if you don't secure the environmental future, we're all going to be in the same boat economically speaking. Again, you can debate whether the policies proposed will actually provide environmental security, but you're not going to win a lot of support by advocating that the country does nothing because of short-term economic pains.