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Old 01-27-2016, 12:36 PM   #108
peter12
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Originally Posted by PsYcNeT View Post
What is there to explain beyond what I (and others) have said?

You lot obviously view sexuality and gender as being intrinsically tied together, when they exist apart from each other. Changing the public discourse regarding transgendered/gender-fluid individuals is long-overdue.

You may take issue with not forcing gender roles on children, but it's something that has been happening for years. The difference being, some of these kids that do eventually figure out their transgenderism may be growing up in a world where they are not most likely to die before age 30 at their own hand.
Of course they are intrinsically tied together, but in a way that is probably incomprehensible to all of us. To create some sort of third category is just as damaging as ideologically insisting that there have always been two - something that most people don't cling on to as religiously as you and others want the rest of us to believe.

I can't quote your statement below, but I will only say that it is crude. Of course, sexual preferences should follow social identification, and probably vice-versa. To act as though one is a mechanical performance, and the other is some sort of existential experience independent of everything else is so flimsy. Human lives are more complicated than you, and your fellows give credit, and your solutions are so crude, poorly-devised from a very outdated ideological perspective.

Are you somehow denying, for instance, that genes do not influence behaviour? Are you not aware of previous attempts to forcibly create a third gender on a child that wrought more pain than if the child had been allowed to explore his own identity within his own social circles?

You say that you want to create a new space for a new discussion, but I am anything but convinced that your motivations are not as suspect as the imagined closeted religious bigot who wants to forcibly imprint his child in a world of men and women, and would hate his child if they refused his dictatorial life plan. You are precisely the same, except more insidious.

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