01-27-2016, 12:31 PM
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Join Date: May 2004
Location: Marseilles Of The Prairies
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Originally Posted by CaptainYooh
You are trying to justify this from some kind of a protection from oppression perspective, which is similar to what the proponents of this protocol did. My view is that there was no oppression to begin with. Absolute majority of kids have pronounced gender identity. Those that are somewhat conflicted about it need time, experience and guidance. Two of our friends have boys that started identifying as gay by the time the were 20 even though we all suspected that they might be earlier. Both had girlfriends during school, played team sports and did not find girls "yucky". It does take time and maturity to make some of these decisions. Think of a bullied kid that may find it easier to declare a changed gender identity rather than having to deal with his bullies.
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Originally Posted by peter12
My point is that it is a cruel, unnecessarily ideological experiment that is intended to remove parents from their responsibility to raise their children, and instill their own values, and that it radically politicizes the sexuality of children.
The entire issue of transgenderism is not exactly illuminated with good, clear science at this point, and nor do I ever expect it to be given the vagaries of human sexuality across the board. However, this is a private matter, and the intervention of ideologically-motivated administrators and teachers often leads to further stigmatization, and isolation of these kids. I speak from family experience here.
It is important to realize that a) human sexuality is not set in stone, especially in prepubescent stages, b) that we have no real understanding as to how someone may be transgenders or choose to identify with a particular outlook, and c) top-down efforts to influence these matters often have either no effect or a negative effect.
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I can't believe it has to be said for the fourth time in this thread, but sexuality and gender aren't the same thing.
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Originally Posted by MrMastodonFarm
Settle down there, Temple Grandin.
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