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Old 01-27-2016, 12:24 PM   #98
Cecil Terwilliger
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Originally Posted by Flash Walken View Post
Uh, this is the case with everything in public school systems. Where do you think these standards come from?

Actually, schools and schoolboards have demonstrated they aren't better at dealing with these issues which is why things like Gay Straight Alliances and now this are having to come from the Province.

Like teaching trigonometry to 13 year olds, if you don't like it you're free to remove your child from publicly subsidized education and teach them yourself.
While I think you make a good point about the GSA's and individual school boards failure in many schools, I still believe you are giving Peter a rough ride and should maybe give him the benefit of the doubt. I can't profess to speak for him nor would I defend him if he starts going on about how sinful these little transgendered monsters are.

What I am reading from him, and Peter correct me if I am misinterpreting, is that the province is making this issue to be decided by the kids at a young age. While on the whole I have no problem with the policies designed to help prevent discrimination and exclusion of transgendered individuals, I think it is important to not force children to make decisions that may be beyond their scope of understanding.

On the other hand, I think it appears much of this document is meant for teachers, principals and admin staff and is meant to train the people in charge to remove many of their inherent biases towards grouping kids into their versions of boy/girl.


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Originally Posted by PepsiFree View Post
It's always a bit interesting when nobody questions the instilling of classical gender values from a very VERY early age but as soon as those values are questioned the response becomes "kids aren't mature enough for gender!"

I have yet to see someone raise their child as completely gender-neutral until they were "mature" enough to decide.
I wanted to include this because I replied while you posting. However I think we've seen from some anecdotal evidence in this thread that young kids don't really understand adults conformity to gender roles. If a kid wants to identify as a boy but the other kids aren't likely to mind, even if some parents would see her as a she. I would hope the province is instructing schools to remove some of these gender roles to help avoid influencing kids. There appear to be some concerns that this new law will in fact force kids to identify with one gender or another before they've ever realized what they are.

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