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Old 01-27-2016, 11:13 AM   #2991
HockeyIlliterate
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And he his going to stump hard for Hillary, because his own legacy depends heavily on her preserving his changes.
He may, but surely even Obama understands that Hillary--if she were to become president--would only look out for herself, and would seldom, if at all, concern herself with preserving anyone's legacy other than her own.

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And while he may still be a divisive figure on a national scale, as a campaign asset you can take him out of that national spotlight and put him into a much more targeted approach, get him into the communities that you need to win specific states.
A large portion of Sanders supporters are those who once supported Obama, but who believe that Obama never delivered the promised change. Those supporters aren't going to go over to Hillary anytime soon---and particularly not if Obama starts saying Hillary can deliver the change that Obama promised.

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Between Hillary, Bill, Barrack, even Joe (a bit of a punching bag in the national media, but still very much with his own following, as polls showed when he was considering a presidential bid), a Clinton campaign is going to be extremely formidable in terms of campaigning.
There isn't a lot of upside potential for Hillary. At this point, you either support her or you don't, and having Bill, Barack, Joe*, or whomever up on stage on her behalf isn't going to change the metrics in any significant manner.

Her best chance at getting more votes is for Sanders to drop out. And, personally, I think that if Sanders were to lose the nomination, at best only half of his supporters would migrate over to Hillary. Would that be enough to win the necessary states? Who knows.


* For what it is worth, I think Joe supports Sanders, but feels constrained in the amount of support that he can provide to him. I also tend to think that Obama leans more towards Sanders than Hillary on most issues, but due to the Secretary of State relationship with Hillary, likewise feels constrained in the amount of support that he can provide to Sanders.
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