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Old 01-26-2016, 03:04 PM   #686
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I love this new approach - and I have Harper to thank for my new love of this approach.

Harper's hard line approach failed us. He help create an "us vs them" mentality across this country; which is now playing out in Quebec right now with Energy East.
This is fiction at its finest, that us versus them has been around since the Nations founding. you also merely have to look at Trudeua's old man for creating a more fractured nation, then his protege Jean Chretien widened the gap with his discussions about how he doesn't understand Albertan's at all and how they think differently then all Canadians.

Harper's creation of the distinct nation of Quebec within a Nation admission significantly cooled the ardor and destroyed the separatist movement.

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Will Mr Good Hair's approach of bringing stakeholders to the table work any better? I honestly don't know, but, lets give the guy a chance and see where we stand in 6 months instead of just calling him whishy washy. I know many people in AB love to see someone they disagree with fail, but his failure is bad for us in the end.

I personally think pipeline companies do a great deal of public consultation along with the NEB approvals, but, if bringing more people to the table (including environmentalists) helps us get media on our side, like Rick Mercer, it will be worthwhile. Also, just maybe, people will actually learn the real economics of our country through this process.
I disagree with you on this approach. We already study the crap out of these things and have a pretty stringent environmental checklist in place that surpasses most other energy dealing nations. All we've seen with this so called consultation approach of bringing everyone to the table to make people happy is the special interest groups basically make approvals these long drawn out hijacked affairs.

I'm fine with running thousands of trains a year across the country with Oil in it because from a carbon based perspective it shows the hypocrisy of things, when compared to the impact of pipelines.

Trudeau's response to me was stupid. These projects like Energy East, and Kinder and other's have had the crap studied out of them. For him to basically put the power back into the hands of these individual tin potted mincing morons who basically are self interested is a fail. Grow a back bone, take control federally where it belongs.
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