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Originally Posted by jammies
He's not.
Vader was physically imposing, in every scene he dominates those around him. His body language was threatening, his voice not only deep and powerful but his words always spoken with conviction and underlying anger. The character was genius and I doubt the original movie would even have been half as successful without his presence in it.
This isn't subtle moviemaking, I understand very well what the character is intended to be, but it is neither a good idea here, nor is it well executed. Vader's real face should never have been revealed, but at least it took until the third movie before they made that mistake. Here you are shown it's just a selfish little boy in a costume right away, and selfish little boys, while certainly capable of evil, are not intimidating.
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Ren is suppossed to be more of a Vader in training. By the time Star Wars Episode IV came out, Vader had been Vader for over two decades. He was a leader in a well established and ruthless dictatorship.
Ren on the other hand is still getting used to the job and hasn't been totally broken yet, the way Vader had been. Ren at this point has far more in common with Anakin in Episode 3 than Vader in episode 4.
Ren being weak and whiny was totally intentional. We'll see if they transition to more of a Vader type figure in the later movies, and if they pull that off. However, they purposely made Ren emotionally weak to contrast him with Vader in episodes IV-VI.
Also, revealing Vader's face in Episode VI was pure genious, and one of the greatest movie moments of all time. It not only showed that "Vader" had been defeated but revealed the false promises of the Dark Side in an extremely effective way. That moment is the conclusion of the entire trilogy.