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Old 01-14-2016, 02:56 PM   #2817
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Yep some pretty bad choice on the right side of the aisle. Clinton for all her flaws and Sanders in the end I think would actually be pretty good presidents. I don't see that on the other side of the aisle.
Fair enough, I don't think there are great candidates on either side of the aisle. I don't think very much of Hillary to be honest, I like Sanders, but I think that it will be interesting to see what happens if he does win and the bullets start really flying.





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It's natural. Bill has been president. It's really, really, really different than when a "normal" spouse campaigns. And spouses do campaign all the time. But I don't think that should reflect poorly on Clinton. In fact I think it should be a positive. If there is ANYONE in this world that knows what it's like to be president without actually being president it is Clinton. Not just because she was first lady but because she has also led her own very high level political life.

Of all the candidates there should be no question who has the most relevant experience and ability to handle the job (ignoring platforms of course).
Maybe, but whether it does or doesn't reflect on her poorly is a matter for interpretation.

If the Republicans battle Hillary, she will be framed as a part of the establishment, and they will try to whip up the protest vote. I think that she wasn't a good secretary of state and her record there will certainly be up for challenge, especially the Russian reset, her work in Asia and how badly she handled the middle east. I just have a feeling that she's not being viewed as trustworthy right now whereas Sanders is viewed as extremely honest to the point that his policies have become a completely different thing.

Sanders could certainly pick up a large portion of the Democratic vote and the usual protest vote its time for a change from the usual players.



[/quote]That said out of all the candidates I'd vote Sanders right now as I think he has a nice vision (and a vision that by necessity will be tempered and moved closer to the center). But I don't get to vote...I just have to live with what happens.[/QUOTE]

If I was voting, I probably would to, its a place to park a vote in light of none of the other candidates being good and being part of the hard establishment (except for Turnip who's frankly insane in the brain).

However I would expect that the angle of the attack on Sanders would be anti-capitalist system at its nicest, and Better Dead then a Sander's commie batard at worst.
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