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Old 01-07-2016, 02:12 PM   #2657
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Originally Posted by 2Stonedbirds View Post
The 406,000 dead due to gun violence number is misleading as it is also including suicides and justifiable homicide.

But leave it to CNN to BS viewers who they know can't be bothered to look into facts themselves, while they sensationalize the issue with Hollywood-esque promos using bang bang sound bites and dark art to paint a dystopian world while we have a countdown clock for Obamas big interview with Cooper.
Were there 406,000 killed with guns? Yes, Even with so called justifiable homicides are classed as gun violence, because guess what they're gun violence.

Were those suicides made easily by having a gun readily available? Yes

Is a person who wants to commit suicide suffering from mental illness? Yes

The Stat is accurate to me, between those dates that many people died due to a use of fire arms.

But fine.

From 2009 to 2014 according to the FBI Database.

Homicides by firearms

2009 - 9200
2010 - 8874
2011 - 8653
2012 - 8897
2013 - 8454

Total 44,078

Total homicides

2009 - 13752
2010 13174
2011 - 12795
2012 - 12888
2013 - 12253

So the vast majority, close to 3/4 of the homicides in the States were committed by acts of gun violence. That's without taking into accounts suicides, or officer committed killings, or accidental shootings.

So the vast majority of murders are committed by guns, not knives, or lawn mowers or cheese graters or illegal copies of pooty tang.

What's my point, simple the easiest way for the United States to cut down on homicides is to remove ability for people with mental health issues or violent tendencies from getting their hands of fire arms.

Look, I get the whole constitutional hawk thing. The second amendment protection of the right to bear arms. But the question that has to be asked is two fold.

Was the constitution designed to be a legal defense for murder and violence?

Is the constitution a suicide pact?

I'm sure that if you asked the founding fathers this that they would absolutely state that it is not.
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