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Originally Posted by undercoverbrother
I said this earlier in the thread, but the inclusion of weapons in the activities lead make me lean towards the "terrorist" tag.
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I hear you, but what I'm saying is that people with guns who refuse to target innocent civilians, and explicitly want to avoid hurting them, are different from people whose explicit
goal is to hurt civilians, are very different sorts of people.
So whatever the terminology we settle on, we should call those different types of people different things, rather than lumping them together.
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Originally Posted by wittynickname
Understandable, and yet, the Charleston shooter and the Planned Parenthood shooter aren't named as "terrorists," despite definitely having politically motivated beliefs and harming civilians. Because they're not brown.
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I can only speak for myself; in my view those are terrorist actions.
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Originally Posted by New Era
So we are a shot being fired from these clowns meeting every measure of the FBI definition? I think that by meeting the rest of the criteria they are easily categorized as terrorists.
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Well, no, that's not how non-independently-sufficient criteria work. You have to meet all the qualifications to fit the definition. But the FBI definition isn't gospel anyway; maybe they have it wrong. I see no particular reason to rely on who the FBI thinks should be called "terrorists".
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Again, it is almost like people are trying to justify the actions of these hicks so we don't have to classify them as what they are.
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No one is trying to justify their actions. Stop attempting to assign implicit secret motives to people. Again, I can only speak for myself, but I'm just trying to get the terminology down, because I do think it's important that when bad things happen we're clear about what we're talking about. Terrorist attacks will happen again, and in the hysteria that follows I'd like for everyone to think as clearly as possible. I think these guys are morons and criminals, regardless of whether you want to call them "terrorists" or not.