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Originally Posted by 2Stonedbirds

Strawman, false equvilency, more deflection. You could address the issue yet instead choose to focus on the lunatic fringe elements of a political party that have nothing to do with this issue. At all.

So current GOP presidential candidates are "lunatic fringe elements" of the Republican party? Alright then.

Why stop there, the entire constitution was written by human beings who thought slavery was cool, lets toss it all into the trash! You seem to be willing to throw more than one protected right away, who needs that outdated relic anyways?

Point out where I said "throw it away" and not "maybe take a look at changing it."

It should be harder to obtain firearms in this country. They should be kept out of the hands of those who are a danger to themselves and others.

I also have the right to life, as does everyone else in the US, and this masturbatory obsession that gun nuts have infringes on that right to life every single day, to the tune of 10K+ deaths a year.

God forbid I want automatic/semi-automatic killing machines out of the hands of people who aren't mentally or physically capable of handling them, nor have the proper training to handle them, nor the proper grasp of their power and danger.

Originally Posted by 2Stonedbirds

That's true, and this is where the debate ends. Every. Time.

There is a process to change or amend the 2nd (or the 5th for that matter) and executive fiat is not the process.

This is not a first option. This is after years and years of attempts to go about it via the proper channels. The NRA lobby has its hand in so many politicians' pockets that the "process" can't possibly work, because any changes attempted are stopped before even being voted on. Rather than tightening gun laws in recent years, the US has made strides in the opposite direction, with more and more states instituting more lax gun control measures.

The men who wrote the Second Amendment had absolutely zero concept of the kind of weaponry that would come to exist 200+ years in the future. And if everyone wanted to own a couple hundred muskets, by all means, be my guest. Otherwise, let's join the rest of the industrialized world and try to stop being the only Western nation where this kind of ritual killing happens.