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Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch
I kind of agree with this, except that we saw her first awakening when she touched Luke's lightsabre. Her first real attempt at using the force with the mind trick was a dismal failure. When she put some real force so to speak into it the second time it worked, that was I think the aha moment for her.
I guess my problem is she's tied up she's been tortured, she tries the mind trick and it fails utterly, then she tries it again with a lot more force and from a position of what I would call fear. To me that could be something of a step towards the Dark Side more then the light. Just like in the fight with Ren, I had that feeling when she really amped it up and the way that she looked at Ren after she wounded him that the only thing that saved her from a quick fall was that the earth separated them.
Poe's a pretty minor character in my mind, he is literally a combination of Wedge and Porkins from the first movie. I think that giving him more screen time would have been developing a character that isn't all that important.
I agree sort of, but I did like it when he took off the mask while errr torturing Rey because it was a big part of the whole he seems a lot more vulnerable without the mask, whereas with the mask he was a killer and a rage monster. When he couldn't get what he wanted out of Rey and she pushed back, I liked that he removed the mask and you could see the whole frustration and what do I do know expression on his face.
Except that the key point is that Ren isn't all that well trained. I had the sense that he hadn't received any training at all from Snoke, and he was pretty much a clumsy Padawan level person. He's not even a Sith. He had just taken his final fall moments ago when he slaughtered his father, before that he was in a land of confusion. My feeling is that a decently trained Jedi Knight probably would have wiped the floor with him, then turned him into a ferrett and bounced him off of walls.
I disliked the reliance on the Super Weapon. But if you think about it it points to the First Order not being like the empire which had a powerful navy and army even without the Death Star, and the Death Stars were designed as the final nail in the coffin for the rest of the Galaxy.
The Star Killer I feel was built to hide the weakness of the First Order. It was a fire first weapon to one shot the Republic and kill it and then take the resistance out. My sense is that the First Order that rose from disgruntled Imperial Officers and Military Members doesn't have a huge fleet or millions of soldiers but is a small package of fanatics who spent a ton of money on a super weapon that would allow them to conquor the galaxy thought fear.
I think that was more Kasdan then anything else. His movie which was Empire Strikes back had more of that style of humor in it.
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Points taken, I did like the movie, there were just quite a few areas where they glazed over developing the story.
Like I said, I liked the character of Rey allot but thought the developed her in a really weak way.
I left the movie feeling like they wanted to portray all of the characteristics of Han, Luke and Leia jumbelled up between Finn, Rey and Poe. But I left the theater thinking of Poe more like a wedge character. Maybe it was just me and he will turn out to be a minor character in the next movie again, but I get the feeling they will give him a big role and want us to care about him allot more than we do.
And the sense I got of Ren was he did not have vary good control of his powers because of youth and anger, but was vary powerful.