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Old 12-26-2015, 09:43 AM   #2488
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Originally Posted by New Era View Post
Because the two are directly linked? The previous administration started us down this road and even cooked the books to prevent the people from knowing just how bad it was. When you are left holding a bag of #### from last guy, you should be granted some latitude on what you can honestly achieve. When an administration hides almost $2 trillion in war spending you are screwed.

Oh absolutely the two are directly linked. Neither party has had an issue selling future generations down the river. And as you mentioned in an earlier post, borrowing money is absolutely better to do when the cost of doing so is lower. The issue to me however is no longer what the interest rate is, but rather is there any plan AT ALL to pay it all off?

In an earlier post you mentioned spending public dollars on infrastructure ect. This is all fine and well as it does create jobs and income for people at home, and in the end that money moves around and helps different sectors and people. To a degree you could say the same when money is being pumped into public defense contractors, separate from the DOD, but is it needed?

Nearly 2 trillion pumped back into the military, and so far I have only heard one candidate mention anything to do with actually whittling down the bottom line on US debt. If there is one thing congress and the political class can agree on its how to spend money that doesn't exist. Will it ever exist? Is there any actual plan on paying it back or is a strong military the plan?

The ongoing crisis in the ME will never end so long as there are resources there for the taking, and it makes for an excellent proving ground for all the new toys. The course being undertook there will not change regardless of who is in power.

When it comes to Hilary and what should be her exclusion from public office, sadly scandal has become the norm and you have no farther to look than this thread to see how apologists are willing to turn a blind eye so long as their team is running the show. Mention Hillary, we bring up Cheney. Complain how Cheney was never tried for his crimes yet somehow we have the audacity to hold Hillary accountable. It would be akin to the next time someone bitches about Trump and his racist policy propositions, someone brings up FDR and his internment camps. It has nothing to do with the here and now. This tactic is all over the boards, hell some people like to bring up the crusades when talking about radical islam. Non sequitur.

Then people wonder why the country cant move forward. US politics is a prime example of divide and conquer tactics. Set up two candidates that are so far to either side of the political spectrum and people will end up with no choice but those viewed as moderates by their own parties standards. Watch Hillary and Rubio (possibly Bush, who oddly enough wants to pump even more money into the miliary) come on down for the big date with the American voter. Its a joke.

If there was an actual third party that could rise up and be on the happy side of crazy, maybe the US would stand a chance. As it stands; BOHICA.
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