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Old 12-24-2015, 11:11 PM   #549
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K I've been drinking bailey's by the fire and thinking about this movie, and I want to start breaking down some questions, and throwing up some thoughts. So where do I want to start

Who the heck is Rey?

In a movie where major character background stories weren't really explored that deeply, Rey got the full exposition. What we know about Rey is

She's extremely strong in the force and can use it instinctively.

She has a connection with Kylo Ren, managed to repulse his mind probes and actually read his mind.

She fought him to a stand still and inflicted major damage on him

She might have been at the Jedi Academy, I'm not sure if the vision specifically says that she was there, or if she was seeing it happen. She also saw the hallway where Luke and Vader fought on Bespin, saw the battle with Ren, and remembered being handed off to Max Syndows character at a very young age, perhaps to be hidden from the First order or saved from it, or saved by Ren.

During her vision, we heard Obi Wan's voice as he called her name and made the comment about her taking her first steps . We also heard Yoda but I had trouble making out what the voice was saying.

Right now the prevailing theories are two fold, one that she is Kylo Ren's sister, the other that she is Luke Skywalkers daughter.

First of all, I believe overwhelming that she is not a Solo. As much as we want to have the Jacen and Jaina connection from the Legends EU, and JJ used the name Ben who in the novels was a Skywalker not a solo, it doesn't make a lot of sense.

First of all, there was a lack of familiarity and mystery to the Solo theory. While Leia and Solo talked about their son privately they never talked about their daughter once. The only part that comes close was when Maz asks Solo who the girl is and then the movie cuts away.

Second of all, it makes logical sense that maybe Leia simply doesn't know that this is her daughter. But in the past we've seen that Leia's fledging power in the force certainly involved the people around her.

She remembered her mother and described her as kind and sad even though she had only meant her as an infant.

In Return of the Jedi, when Luke tells her that they're brother and sister she remarks that "She knew, somehow she always knew". So its not logical to assume that she wouldn't sense that this was her daughter if she was one.

Also at the point where Rey and Leia meet with Solo there, it wouldn't make sense to continue to hide her identity from her.

Some people also argue that Solo was nearby because he was protecting his daughter. But Solo had lost the Falcon years ago on Jakku where his daughter was and the only reason why they found each other was the Solo was scanning for the Falcon.

So if she isn't Kylo's sister, then why was he so conflicted with her, and offering to teach her the ways of the Force?

The second theory is that she's Luke's daughter, and this makes even more sense. The underlying theory is that Luke couldn't have a daughter because the Jedi forbade attachments.

However we know from Canon that the Jedi ideals changed with order 66 and Yoda getting trashed by Sidious. They decided that instead of raising Luke as part of a Jedi tradition of training from birth and expunging those dangerous emotions, they left Luke to find his own way within the Force. Yoda even mentioned in the ROTS novels that the Jedi needed to evolve, and some emotional attachment or base emotions could probably help a Jedi.

Since Leia had sent Kylo to the academy because she feared that her son had too much of her father in him, its logical that he would have run into a much younger Rey at the academy, and possibly even befriended her. We know that Luke would have sensed his daughter's latent power in the force and wanted to keep her near.

Now whether Rey was his cousin or not doesn't necessarily explain why she was spared, in fact it doesn't even confirm that she was at the Jedi Academy, the visions could have been from the view point of Luke at the academy when the betrayal happened, and she was hidden away by Luke after the slaughter to hide her from the resurgent darkside.

There wasn't even any real indication that Solo and Leia would have known that Luke had a child. We certainly didn't see the familiar relationship between an aunt and uncle and their niece and again there's no reason for Leia to hide her identity from Rey before sending her off to meet the father.

I just firmly think she's Skywalker's daughter because of her reaction to his lightsaber and the familiarity with it, and her latent powers with the force point to her being part of the Skywalker line.

Another theory is that she is the off spring of Ben Kenobi, but First of all Kenobi was a traditional Jedi who didn't really have a deep love affair with any one, we did see one hinted at in TCW series with Satine, but Kenobi if he did fall and love and had a child would have likely left the Jedi Order. Plus if she was Kenobi's child she would have been nearly 40 in this movie.

The final theory is that she's not related to anyone, that she was a child at the Academy that fostered a relationship with a confused Ben Solo, who when the time came for the betrayal couldn't bring himself to kill or sacrifice her.

I tend to think that the safest bet is that she is a Skywalker but not Kylo's sister, I'm not sure that the behaviors of the main characters confirm this nor does Luke's reaction to her at the end, I think its clear that he knew she was coming, I figure that he triggered R2's awakening when he felt Rey's awareness of the Force fully awaken and R2 was fully free to complete his mission of completing the map. However Luke's reaction was fairly stoic for someone who's meeting his daughter for the first time in a long time, and remember Luke was able to genuinely foster attachments. His reactions to seeing Leia and Han again at the end of ROTJ proves that.

But the logical thing is that Rey is a Skywalker, since the entire series of movies is about the Skywalker family.
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