That is hilarious. I thought you were saying that the rationality of Harris and others like him makes their solutions ineffective because they depend on people acting rationally, not that the arguments themselves were wrong. I honestly think that's the first time I've ever seen someone suggest that another person's position is wrong because it's "too rational." That's an inherently ridiculous thing to say.
As nik says, there's no argument that some Christian sects have and will continue to do horrible things. However, as I pointed out, much of the barbarism perpetrated by Christians has been weeded out through reformations and cultural tempering over the course of centuries to a point where the religion has ceded certain ground either to reformists or secularists. That hasn't happened in the case of Islam yet, though people are currently trying to do just that. Your obscurantism isn't just wrong, it makes their job more difficult by refusing to acknowlege the specific doctrines they have to work through to moderate the faith.
I'm not sure what irony you're talking about in your closing statement - Harris explicitly takes the position that some flavours of religion are dumber than others. And this is undeniably true. One of his pet arguments is that Mormonism is essentially Christianity, plus some very improbable additional beliefs. So whatever probability you assign to Jesus returning, you have to assign a lesser probability to him returning specifically to Jackson County, Mississippi. One religion is therefore less likely to be true than another.
And you've effectively admitted this by conceding that Jainism preaches non-violence and thus Jains do not engage in violent terrorist activities. To do so would be antithetical to what being a Jain means. It's not antithetical to being a Muslim, because the underlying fundamentals of the religion are different. They preach different things. Those different preachings provoke different behaviours by people who believe in the religion. Your article about Jains being terrorists somehow by passing legilsation is of course nonsense; there's no equivalence between passing legislation that oppresses a minority and blowing up buses full of kids.
As for your criticisms of media coverage, I think I explained why they're irrelevant to what we're talking about here. If in a particular case you think we got someone's motivations wrong, fine - a Muslim can kill a bunch of people for non-religious reasons just like anyone else. But an anecdote isn't in any way generalizable, and we have lots of evidence of people explicitly killing or doing other horrible things specifically because they think it's the will of Allah. Just, as you say, Christians during the Inquisition used to do in the name of God.
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