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Old 12-17-2015, 11:55 AM   #4352
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Wow, Torts really is an ass sometimes.

And fans have a tendency to be unable to accept when a player is slumping and snake-bit and just assume he's checked out and doesn't care. You'll get the type who watch post-game interviews and analyze his tone of voice and say he doesn't care enough. "Care" level is nearly impossible for a fan to know anyway. I haven't actually seen anything from the media that suggests he does have these issues, they seem to be coming from the fan side.

His stats this year are not even that bad. It's not like he's pulling a Getzlaf.

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I'm sorry but I don't believe it's any more difficult to cure drinking issues (many, many success stories) than it is to cure entitlement and laziness issues. How has Phil Kessel done on another team? How many teams thought they could motivate Dustin Penner? Or even how did Sven Baertschi far with the Canucks because we all know it was the Flames holding him back? It's pretty clear fans get attached to players and are always willing to blame the head coach or organization for not handling them properly when the truth is some players don't get it and some never will.
The thing is with Johansen is that despite all this negative press about laziness, fitness, entitlement he's backed it up with his production. They won't find another centre with his skillset and overall package for another 10 years.

So I mean if the Flames are actually in on this sure I'd be interested. He is trending up, and wouldn't be the most talented player on this team or expected to carry the load.
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