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Old 12-12-2015, 06:18 PM   #2229
MelBridgeman
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Originally Posted by Igottago View Post
I take issue with people pulling the "islam isn't a race" argument in order to mask genuine racism.

How many people who are in favor of Trump's ridiculous ban on muslim's would probably just view it as an opportunity to ostracize brown people generally? I think you would have to admit that at least some, if not many would. That is the typical caricature view of a "muslim" by a racist or bigot anyways. They can't differentiate between a muslim, sikh, hindu, or even a christian arab. Do you think Trumps bigoted supporters would even make the slightest attempt to make a distinction? Or that they even care about criticizing the ideas in islam without vilifying entire ethnicities?

I'm all for calling out the "regressive left" where they fall short on criticism of islam, but to deny that racism plays a role in the conversation as well is ignorant. Yes, in theory you should be able to criticize Islam without assigning a viewpoint on anyone of any particular race or ethnicity. The problem is, actual racists don't do that, and even non racists probably view mulsims primarily as brown skinned, Arabic people. So you need people playing the racism card too -- it genuinely exists in some cases.
it's not a card, islam isn't a race - that is just a fact

Trump's ill advised solution is just stereotyping an entire religious group who consist of all colours because of the actions of a few and the beliefs of even more. ..there is actually a reason for his line of thinking other than banning them just because of their religion or race. This is reality and void of speculation - I don't disagree with your line of thinking, but it is still based on assumption and speculation and not fact.

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