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Old 12-11-2015, 12:58 PM   #180
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First the bolded part. Very specific types of physical contact has a lot to do with repetitive head injuries true, but fighting isn't the biggest cause of these repetitive injuries.
We have already established that there are elements of the causation that are debatable, but the evidence from studies of CTE among former hockey players does rather strongly suggest that repeated fighting was the primary contributing factor.

I have pointed to this now directly several times, and without a response from you:

Habitual fighting demonstrably increases the risk of developing CTE, which is sustained from suffering repeated head trauma. There is a very strong circumstantial link between fighting in hockey and the incidence of CTE. Would you contest this last statement?

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Concussions are caused by the brain hitting the inside of the skull. Body contact causes the body to stop with a sudden change of direction but the brain continues in the direction of the original motion then bumping into the skull.
So, is it your contention that "the biggest cause of these repetitive injuries" is body contact? If so, this looks to me like your own personal opinion, but one that does not even have the benefit of circumstantial evidence to support it.

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You have turned this into your personal opinion about fighting and it shouldn't be. You are spouting your opinion again as fact, it isn't.
I have been pretty straightforward about the fact that my opinion is based on an incomplete body of evidence, and have attempted to argue from a position of taking preventative measures to reduce future harm. But more to the point, what is it that you think this thread is about? My responses have been directed to the discussion of the merits of a lawsuit filed under the explicit pretense that fighting in hockey was a primary contributing factor to the death of Steve Montador:

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"By promoting and, in fact, glorifying fighting, the NHL continues to perpetuate its message to players, coaches and fans that blows to the head should not be considered serious injuries. The NHL knew that by eliminating staged fights from their game they would decrease drug addiction and depression in the men it enlisted in the barbaric role."
Like it or not, this is the issue.
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