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Originally Posted by VERVE
I go to the car dealership and make an offer that is not ridiculouly low but present a respectable value. At least you make an offer (if you really want that car). By offering Price 25-28MM to start negotiation is not 1/2 of of the MSRP. Price signed for about 30-31 MM.
Regarding Cliff Lee:
"Cliff Lee signs a $120 million contract with the Phillies...The Yankees offered Lee a six-year, $138 million contract with a vesting option that increased the value to $154 million, according to ESPN.com...." By Todd Zolecki/MLB.com |
The Cliff Lee was an example of signing for less (supposedly going against the grain of the MLBPA which is a no no as you have indicated). It was not an example of a home town discount which I have explained twice in past posts.
I never suggested that Price left 70+ million on table (again you missed the point). My point was they start somewhere with a number 25MM-28MM and negotiate from there on. Maybe Price would have signed for less, who knows, do you know for certain he would not give a home town discount to sign. Price's agent clearly stated there was "not a formal offer presented at all"...I am no Kreskin majoring in english lit but that means no formal offer was given- nada...It is foolish to guess otherwise. You have to go by the facts given by Price's agent rather than guessing that there must be some sort of offer presented. I have not heard the Jays denying it, have you?
I think we have beaten this dead horse too many times. Let's agree to disagree.
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First off, you are including the option on the Yankees deal and excluding it for the Phillies deal. If you want to include the option (taken from the same link you quoted) its 135m vs. 154m. And I'm sure the MLBPA was thrilled.
More importantly, regarding Price, this isn't hockey. Dollar per year figures are irrelevant. The total dollar value is king in baseball since guys typically only get one crack at a big free agent contract. So when you say the Jays could've offered 25-28 mil it doesn't matter. Could they do it for 7 years (175m-196m total)? Not a chance. They could probably do it for 5 years (125m-140m) but that barely keeps Price's agent on the line.