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Originally Posted by TheAlpineOracle
...these law suits really bother me. Most of the people involved with these suits sit there and see no problem collecting a pay check for ten years knowing full well what they are doing and the risk they are assuming.
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So, this is a completely baseless stereotype. Who are "most people" in this sentence, and how is it you are certain about their awareness of the risks of their behaviour?
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Originally Posted by TheAlpineOracle
...Most of the families would have been telling people for years how proud they are that there loved one was in the NHL, and soon as the lifestyle/celebrity gravy train ends, it's "what a monster the NHL is, they are responsible for my issues".
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In this second bald assertion, you have now projected motives and intents from nothing more than the report offered yesterday about the Montadors filing suit. It is also a baseless stereotype.
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Originally Posted by TheAlpineOracle
...I'm just going to stop posting on the subject because really it's pointless because I don't think there's anything that anyone could say that would convince me that someone who enters a professional contact sports league isn't aware there's a risk associated with playing their sport which could result in long term and debilitating injuries.
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Again, you continue to gloss over this crucial point by making the equivocation fallacy between the rather generic "long term and debilitating injuries," and extremely dangerous and life threatening complications resulting from the eminently preventable incidence of CTE.
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Originally Posted by TheAlpineOracle
...We aren't talking about situations like Boogard where the NHL appears to have clearly have dropped the ball on their substance abuse program. We are talking about law suits for injuries sustained while playing a physical game, and it was the participants choice to involve themselves in that game.
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On the contrary,
this is exactly what this lawsuit is about. How convenient for you to ignore the established connections made between Boogaard's substance abuse and self destructive behaviour and CTE.
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Originally Posted by TheAlpineOracle
...I don't think there is any debating that physical sports like hockey and football cause serious injuries that may extent long past playing career. I'm debating that in playing these sports, you are accepting that risk and it's hypocritical to turn around and sue the league when you are done when you implied your consent by getting on the playing field in the first place.
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Again, your insistence on pretending that this specific issue is only about "accepting risks" is quite tiresome and naive. It has been said numerous times in previous posts: Not all risks are the same, and it is not well established at all that players are adequately well informed of all the risks. Furthermore, not all risks are in any context acceptable. If the incidence of CTE can be dramatically reduced, then every effort should be made to reduce them. I don't know any more about the Montador lawsuit than you do, but I suspect that the possibility of increasing awareness and putting pressure on the NHL to change dangerous policies is quite likely a large part of their motivation.