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Originally Posted by VERVE
The players' assoc. can say what they want, the final decision is Price's.
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Then you clearly don't understand the influence the players associations have on players. Price isn't negotiating in a vacuum. His contract sets the bar for future contracts to top tier pitching free agents, which has a trickle down effect to everything from other pitching free agent contracts to arbitration hearings. It's ignorant to just say "Price can do what he wants". Players have very tight knit bonds and David Price leaving the money on the table can have a major effect on the rest of those guys. If you don't think the MLBPA is in his ear telling him that then you're a fool.
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My past posts of offering a respectable offer for Price is basing it on a few factors. His agent has stated that Price enjoyed playing for the Jays and was willing to sign there and was surprised no offer came. The team is essentially intact from last year. Him and Stroman has some friendship going. Given those parameters, at least present a respectable offer to start the ball rolling such as 20-25 million per season for ex. 6 or 7 yrs. It is not close to the ridiculous offer of Boston but if Price balks at Jays' offer or counters with a crazy offer, then both parties can walk. at least presnt a darn offer! If they can pay Happ 12 million/season for 3 yrs as a 33 yr old that has never been an ace, well, you can certainly spend more for David Price.
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That's a range of $120mil to $175mil - so clearly you haven't thought this through. One is almost half of what he ended up getting and one is probably a realistic first offer that Price's camp would listen to. Either way, the $175mil is $42 million less than Boston's winning offer (and, again, not necessarily their ceiling) so it's getting tossed in the trash. Do you not realize that the Jays could have discussed the initial offers from the Red Sox ($200mil) and Cardinals ($190mil) with Price's Camp and just bowed out because their ceiling wasn't even close to those?
When you go shopping for a new car, do you take a swing by the Ferrari dealership and offer them $100k for a $200k car just to see what happens? If you know the response to your offer going in, what's the point of making one in the first place?
Seems like such a ridiculous thing to get worked up about - making an offer that you know in hindsight was just going to get rejected.