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BigBrodieFan · 12-05-2015, 11:41 PM

Interesting Statistics- which may have already been discussed but I am not going to dig- so I apologize in advance if this information is on this board someplace.

Mass Shootings under the Last Five Presidents

Ronald Reagan: 1981-1989 (8 years) 11 mass shootings
Incidents with 8 or more deaths = 5
George H. W. Bush: 1989-1993 (4 years) 12 mass murders
Incidents with 8 or more deaths = 3

Bill Clinton: 1993-2001 (8 years) 23 mass murders
Incidents with 8 or more deaths = 4
George W. Bush: 2001-2009 (8 years) 20 mass murders
Incidents with 8 or more deaths = 5

Barrack H. Obama: 2009-2015 (in 7th year) 162 mass murders
Incidents with 8 or more deaths = 18

Is there some kind of direct correlation to the Obama and mass shootings? If it were the opposite and a conservative president was in power, it would be spun to be the conservative president's fault because of too many guns. Yet Obama has talked constantly of wanting more gun control laws, and yet not just a few more- but 8 times more mass shootings have occurred in Obama's term than any other presidential term since Reagan (sorry the data only goes back until then)- and if you look you can see that they increased four-fold in his first term as president.

Guns are rampant and too easy to get here in the US, but it's not just the guns, as they've always been very easy to get, and there are more gun laws than ever at this point in American history. There is something very, very, very wrong with American society. I have a theory which I know won't be popular because most Canadians seem to have very liberal stances when it comes to gun control because they haven't lived here and they don't understand the concept of the Constitution and how the Yanks feel about it.

I really think that the reason gun violence in the form of mass shootings is becoming a societal norm is due to the political process here. Politicians here are the worst scumbags in the country- most with a completely different agenda than 'for the greater good.' It doesn't matter which side they are on- other countries don't understand that the political leadership here are incredibly stupid and incapable. If you do find one that's smart enough to make any sense, they do not have an agenda for 'the greater good.' They will always have an ulterior motive and most of the time, it's self serving.

The problem here is that the two political parties spend all of their time telling one another how the other is wrong on every level, and absolutely nothing gets done. The political climate here is laughable and on the verge of lunacy. Spend a couple of hours watching Congress on television. It's like watching really bad stand up comedy, over and over.

Yes, it's the prevalence of guns. Yes, it's the crazy idiots who do the shooting. Yes it's the NRA lobbyists. But what is actually making people decide to go through with a mass shooting despite the consequences is a question that can be pointed to a very broken society for an answer. It's neither Republicans nor Democrats- it's just the entire broken, horrific, cluster#### of a system here that is so used to laying blame on one party or another, we've completely become insensitive to humanity. The victims are long forgotten as there are too many to mention. But what's never forgotten, is the constant blaming and bashing of which ideologies are right or wrong.

The only thing people seem to care about is who wins the argument. But, in this case, it's just not winnable.

12-05-2015, 11:41 PM	#2808
BigBrodieFan Franchise Player Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: H-Town, Texas Exp:	Interesting Statistics- which may have already been discussed but I am not going to dig- so I apologize in advance if this information is on this board someplace. Mass Shootings under the Last Five Presidents Ronald Reagan: 1981-1989 (8 years) 11 mass shootings Incidents with 8 or more deaths = 5 George H. W. Bush: 1989-1993 (4 years) 12 mass murders Incidents with 8 or more deaths = 3 Bill Clinton: 1993-2001 (8 years) 23 mass murders Incidents with 8 or more deaths = 4 George W. Bush: 2001-2009 (8 years) 20 mass murders Incidents with 8 or more deaths = 5 Barrack H. Obama: 2009-2015 (in 7th year) 162 mass murders Incidents with 8 or more deaths = 18 Is there some kind of direct correlation to the Obama and mass shootings? If it were the opposite and a conservative president was in power, it would be spun to be the conservative president's fault because of too many guns. Yet Obama has talked constantly of wanting more gun control laws, and yet not just a few more- but 8 times more mass shootings have occurred in Obama's term than any other presidential term since Reagan (sorry the data only goes back until then)- and if you look you can see that they increased four-fold in his first term as president. Guns are rampant and too easy to get here in the US, but it's not just the guns, as they've always been very easy to get, and there are more gun laws than ever at this point in American history. There is something very, very, very wrong with American society. I have a theory which I know won't be popular because most Canadians seem to have very liberal stances when it comes to gun control because they haven't lived here and they don't understand the concept of the Constitution and how the Yanks feel about it. I really think that the reason gun violence in the form of mass shootings is becoming a societal norm is due to the political process here. Politicians here are the worst scumbags in the country- most with a completely different agenda than 'for the greater good.' It doesn't matter which side they are on- other countries don't understand that the political leadership here are incredibly stupid and incapable. If you do find one that's smart enough to make any sense, they do not have an agenda for 'the greater good.' They will always have an ulterior motive and most of the time, it's self serving. The problem here is that the two political parties spend all of their time telling one another how the other is wrong on every level, and absolutely nothing gets done. The political climate here is laughable and on the verge of lunacy. Spend a couple of hours watching Congress on television. It's like watching really bad stand up comedy, over and over. Yes, it's the prevalence of guns. Yes, it's the crazy idiots who do the shooting. Yes it's the NRA lobbyists. But what is actually making people decide to go through with a mass shooting despite the consequences is a question that can be pointed to a very broken society for an answer. It's neither Republicans nor Democrats- it's just the entire broken, horrific, cluster#### of a system here that is so used to laying blame on one party or another, we've completely become insensitive to humanity. The victims are long forgotten as there are too many to mention. But what's never forgotten, is the constant blaming and bashing of which ideologies are right or wrong. The only thing people seem to care about is who wins the argument. But, in this case, it's just not winnable.