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Originally Posted by Nobama
If your goal is to kill someone or a group of people there are many ways to do that. Focusing on the type of guns used seems dumb. Shot guns are allowed in Canada and if these two people entered this building with shot guns I think they would have achieved the same result. How about knives? bombs? Guns don't kill people, people kill people. And as the evidence keeps coming in it looks like this is a planned attack orchestrated by the same religious beliefs similar to Paris - A place where guns are illegal.
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This is a BS line of logic and you know it.
FIrst of all with the shotgun argument. You're right, a shotgun is the ultimate room clearing weapon. But you don't see a lot of shot gun based massed shootings because they're not an effective weapon. They aren't magazine fed and they're not a super accurate weapon, and they don't have a significant range compared to the weapons that are most commonly used, where you can accurately hit something down range up to more then a football field in distance. Most shotguns that are purchased are also manual reload, the magazine fed shot guns are also a banned weapon. As are some of the more exotic rounds that you can fire through them.
Ok the last time I looked explosives are a banned weapon, so maybe that explains why there is a lower then 355 incident per year mass murder caused by explosives. Now as yourself and be honest, can you imagine if grenades were legal and these mass murders could walk onto a attack with a 30 round semi automatic weapon and 5 or 6 lightweight fragmentation grenades. The casualty rates would be a lot higher then they are.
As for the knives thing, come on man, most knives aren't designed as a primary killing weapon unless we're talking about swords. And as a killing weapon even the dumbest mass murderer knows that a fully tricked out magazine fed semi auto weapon is the weapon of choice, so why bother with a knife.
When I was in the military, we had knives and bayonets and they were cool to use, but unlike a Tom Clancy novel or movie of the week they were so far down the list of weapons that we would actually ever have to use, that rocks and a healthy spray of our urine would probably be used first.
And your right, guns don't kill people, people kill people. But guns like the ones being used make it easier for them to make that decision to do it and carry it out.
would you give gas to a pyromaniac?
Gas doesn't kill people, its not its primary design.
But a gun does kill people and that's its primary design.