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Originally Posted by longsuffering
I am assuming you asked the question genuinely, so I'll answer genuinely.
"But we're not talking about Catholicism here." You're right we're not, but we rarely if ever talk about the double standards that exist in our own 'civilization' or culture. And they do exist.
Is the double standard wrong? Absolutely. But it's wrong in every instance it exists; in Islam, in the Catholic Church, in the legal system (and I mean rich/poor, not white/black), etc.
"How is my view biased?" I suppose I think its biased because it seems that your starting point, your base assumption is that Islam is bad and I believe that is too broad a generalization. Moderate Muslims outnumber radical or fundamentist types by a huge margin (guesstimate - 50 - 1, probably higher) but when I read your post I assumed (and I know what happens when one ass-u-mes) that you lumped them all into the same pile, judging the religion as though it was a single entity.
If I've interpreted too much into your post, I do apologize. I enjoy your post on the hockey forum and I haven't noticed you diving into many of the super-heated off-topic threads.
Cheers!
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I dont agree with your post at all. habernac's thread is about Muslims period. We could start another one talking about the plight of women in all religions...but the FACT is Islam is not very kind towards women, especially when compared to the rights and freedoms of women in the secular West. Unfortunately, even Muslim women in the secular West experience great difficulty and are sometimes too afraid to speak out on issues that are important to them.
If women who speak out are afraid and getting threats, not only are their fears and criticisms completely validated, but there is something very deeply and even pathologically wrong with Muslim communities. The question is, what is wrong? Is the problem to be found within Islam, elsewhere, both? That's something that Muslims themselves will have to deal with — and quickly, too.
Whenever anyone points out to the dreadful treatment of women in Muslim countries, apologists are quick to point out that women in pre-Islamic Arabia had no rights and that Islam elevated their status. Pre-Islamic Arabia was inhabited by many different tribes with diverse cultures. In some tribes women were mere chattels, unwanted baby girls were buried alive and widows were inherited by male relatives.
The Sharia law favours men and is highly biased against women notably in matters of marriage, divorce, sex and custody of children:
The husband is the head of the family, and wife is expected to be obedient at all times. Husbands are permitted to beat wives.
http://www.hraicjk.org/punishment_of_muslim_women.html Men have easy access to divorce. For a woman to divorce is very difficult. If a woman wishes to divorce she has to give back the dowry/gift to the husband even if the husband has tortured her - see Hadith: Sunaan Abu Dawud Book 12, Num.2220. No alimony for divorced wives. http://www.domini.org/lam/stories.html
Children belong to the father and his family. Upon divorce the father gains custody and if the father dies the children go to his family.
See stories http://www.domini.org/lam/COM/childabduction.html and http://www.hraicjk.org/kidnapping_of_children.html and http://www.patroush.com/index.htm Women are always regarded as minors: under sharia they need their father's, husband's - or any other male relative's who owns them - permission to marry, travel, study, work, obtain medical treatment etc. Muslim apologists tell us that this is for the woman's protection.
Theres no double standard in habernacs post.
Islam...scraping off the whitewash