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Old 11-27-2015, 10:37 AM   #443
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Originally Posted by kehatch View Post
Your still focusing on the 8 games and ignoring the rest. Ramo was near the bottom of the NHL in every single measurable metric before Hartley decided to give Ramo that string of games. He was terrible to start that string as well. Sure it was under the premise that he was stopping the goalie rotation. But is it just a coincidence he decided to start that as soon as Hiller got hurt? Is it a coincidence that he is finally stopping it now that Hiller is back?
Ortio got the first start after Hiller's injury. If Ortio hadn't played like a flaming bag of poo in that game, he probably would have got the following start(s).

Also, you are making an assumption that Hartley is going to stop going with Ramo now that Hiller is back. That may well be the case - I expect Hiller to start tomorrow - but we don't know the future yet.

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Hartley didn't want to play Ortio, plain and simple. He went out of his way to not play him. Agree with the decision if you want to. But it is what it is.

Giving a goalie fresh off of waivers a predetermined string of starts regardless of performance certainly doesn't speak to the "always earned" mantra. Sitting another goalie for a month while the other goalies are terrible doesn't speak to the mantra. Neither does sitting him again after he doesn't perform well in two games after sitting for a month.

"Always earned" defined the culture that made us successful last season. But I haven't seen much of it this season. In fact there is a distinct lack of accountability.
Hartley wanted to play Ortio. But he looked poor against the Isles, then was atrocious against the Habs. I'm not saying Ramo's next start was great - it wasn't - but he still won that game. And Hartley has consistently rewarded a win with another start. That turned out to be the 6-3 loss to Colorado. So while Hartley could have gone back to Ortio at that point, the numbers bear out that he ultimately made the right decision to stick with Ramo for the following games.

Your argument boils down to being upset that Hartley made what was ultimately a good decision to stick with Ramo. And if, as has been suggested, Ortio wasn't practicing well at the same time, then I would argue that the "always earned" mantra was fully in play here.

Honestly, your argument is more one of being upset that Ortio wasn't given anything, which flies in the face of what you are saying.
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