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Old 11-27-2015, 09:09 AM   #437
kehatch
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Originally Posted by Resolute 14 View Post
Another way to spot a losing argument is to look for people like you rebutting comments out of context.

Certainly our goaltending was horrid to start the season. That was why Ramo was initially demoted to Stockton, and it is why Ortio got in, and then got sat back down.

But the simple truth is, that "snapshot of the season" is especially relevant in context: Ramo has been a solid goalie for us for much of November. And it also happened to be a period where we had numerous breaks between games, so there was no risk of overworking a goalie. Any coach in the NHL will ride a goalie playing well in that situation. If Ramo didn't have that strong stretch, Ortio would have played more. Don't blame Hartley, blame Ramo for outperforming Ortio.
Your still focusing on the 8 games and ignoring the rest. Ramo was near the bottom of the NHL in every single measurable metric before Hartley decided to give Ramo that string of games. He was terrible to start that string as well. Sure it was under the premise that he was stopping the goalie rotation. But is it just a coincidence he decided to start that as soon as Hiller got hurt? Is it a coincidence that he is finally stopping it now that Hiller is back?

Hartley didn't want to play Ortio, plain and simple. He went out of his way to not play him. Agree with the decision if you want to. But it is what it is.

I don't agree with it. Giving a goalie fresh off of waivers a predetermined string of starts regardless of performance certainly doesn't speak to the "always earned" mantra. Sitting another goalie for a month while the other goalies are terrible doesn't speak to the mantra. Neither does sitting him again after he doesn't perform well in two games after sitting for a month.

"Always earned" defined the culture that made us successful last season. But I haven't seen much of it this season. In fact there is a distinct lack of accountability.
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