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Originally Posted by TheAlpineOracle
The only pitchers with any upside on the Indians are Danny Salazar and Trevor Bauer. Kluber and Carrasco are almost 30 and both have decent sized contracts kicking in.
I'd love to have Salazar and would be more than willing to give up Sanchez for him, but gutting the outfield of it's only major league ready prospect and a rookie coming off a great season makes no sense. Salazar is eligible for Arbitration next year and his price tag is going to be very high in each of the 2017-2020 season. You only really get a deal on him for one year (2016). You can get an established guy as good as Salazar on the FA market, and it's not going to cost you all that much more except in the first year or two.
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Carrasco is 28 and has one of the best value contracts in the MLB. He's owed about 17.5mil over the next 3 seasons and has two club options (for around $10mil per season) for the following two seasons. If he doesn't fall off the map, he's locked up for 5 years for about 37.5 million total.
And I don't think you understand how arbitration works. Usually the rule of thumb is that guys make 40%/60%/80% of their free agent price in their three arb years. So acquiring Salazar would give you one entry level year and an average of 60% of his projected market value during his arb years - that works out to probably 50% of his projected market value over his four cost-controlled years.
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Originally Posted by TheAlpineOracle
Cueto, Leake, Chen, Kazmi, Zimmerman, Gallardo, Samardzija, Fister, Iwakuma, etc.
All of these guys bring as much or more than Carrasco or Salazar. Salazar may be a little younger, but these guys cost you nothing other than a FA contract and a draft pick that more likely than not will not pan out.
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There are some better pitchers here (and a lot of worse ones), but every single one of them is going to cost a fortune more than Salazar/Carassco for non-prime years. I mean, are you really comparing signing guys like Cueto/Kazmir/Zimmerman to $100m+ deals to cost-controlled pitchers? Like I said, you are acting like the Jays can't trade Pompey/Sanchez for Salazar and then use the money you want to give to a big name starting pitcher to shore up your percieved outfield problem. Why does this money only exist in the scenario you prefer?