I find the pre workout supplements entirely unnecessary. Had massive gains and I'm in the double bodyweight or higher lifting group. There are much better options imo, shilajit (85+ minerals) and cordyceps (adrenalin support for strenuous exercise) for example. I would wager those two are just as efficacious, are real ie not synthetics and are cheaper. I think the reasonable time to take those synthetic supplements is when you're a pro athlete and need to get from 6 to 5% bodyfat.
Last edited by AcGold; 11-12-2015 at 12:16 PM.
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