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Originally Posted by Cleveland Steam Whistle
Here's what I'd like to know. Forgetting the debate over whether this is being handled well by the Flames or not, for arguments sake, lets just assume that everything the people so upset in here are saying is true. Flames have made no progress, announced it years ago, going to be a long grind, etc.......
Even if all of that were true, what is it about that fact that has got those in here who as so offended and upset by this in their current state of mind? What is driving that passion about the break ground and ribbon cutting on a new rink, and what has got them so assured that because of the above timelines that KK is doing a terrible job?
Isn't it actually true, that the Flames have as long as they believe they have to make this happen? Aren't the only ones who actually have an urgency at this point to get this done is the Flames, and if they feel like they have 2 years, 5 years, 10 years to complete this thing, then they do? It's not like the building is hurting them on ticket sales yet. So only they know just how much money they are losing out on increased box revenues, increased concessions and increased concerts are costing them. And if they are comfortable with that knowledge, what is it that has some fans so riled up that this must happen now, and we are so behind etc...?
To me, it must be one of the following:
- People litterally just can't contain themselves and once something is put on their radar, then need instant gratification and know all the details.
- They are sad that Edmonton is getting a new rink, and somehow see this as Edmonton one upping us and for some reason that personally offends them.
- Do you currently hate your experience at the Dome that much that you are thinking of not coming to games anymore?
- Your favourite band keeps missing tour dates in Calgary?
- Are you actually worried we might never get an arena and the Flames will play in the Dome forever
- Are you actually worried we might never get an arena and the Flames will leave town.
To me, the Flames have as much time as they think they have from a financial perspective, and if they aren't in a rush, why would we be? There has been no "we need a new rink or we are moving talk". So why get so fired up? Don't get me wrong, I'll be excited to go to a new rink and see the games when that time comes, but right now, I'm also still excited to head to the Dome and watch the Flames, so I just don't get the urgency some have on here.
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For me its not a question of being impatient to get a new arena. I'm in no hurry.
It's a question of a company proposing an absolutely massive construction project, and wanting oceans of public money for it, but haven't done a particularly convincing job of managing the project to date.
They're a long way in, with very little to show for it. They don't seem to have involved the city in their plans, even though they want the city to provide the land, provide the funds, and be the owners of the project. Their funding proposals have no basis in reality, because they completely ignore two of the biggest costs in the project (city infrastructure and environmental remediation). After they presented a quite vague proposal, the biggest stakeholder in the project is decidedly cool and non-committal, with the mayor's office calling it half baked, and saying they didn't do their homework.
My problem with it is that they want hundreds of millions of dollars of taxpayer money, but don't seem to have their **** together.