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Old 11-09-2015, 03:59 PM   #54
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I would say being slightly less than Toews has resulted in him being slightly less rated as Toews.

He has a slightly lower regular season and play-off PPG average. He has 2 cups to 3, 0 Conn Smyth's to 1. He is less physical and not as good on FO's.

It isn't like people treat Kopitar as a run of the mill guy. He is slightly less than Toews so he gets ranked in the 5-15 area, rather than the 1-5 area nothing wrong with that.
Kopitar reg season-0.88ppg
Toews-0.88 ppg

Playoffs
Kopitar-0.86 ppg
Toews-0.87 ppg

Statistically insignificant difference in ppg. Number of cups is a team accomplishment.

The Conn Smythe and Selke awards are chosen by the hockey writers who are Canadian and have had a boner for Toews since his World Junior shootout heroics.

Toews had 3 points and was -5 in the finals when he won his Conn Smythe. That trophy could have went to a few guys on that team. Duncan Keith had 7 points in the finals and was nearly a PPG through the playoffs. Toews' name recognition probably helped him there.


Kopitar wasn't really any better in the finals in 13/14 but he also led his team in overall playoff points like Toews, and was the leading player in both ES and SH icetime. Williams won out because of a great story, game 7 hero, rather than because he was the better player on that team.

I'll give you Toews is better on faceoffs but that doesn't explain the difference between Toews ranked at number 2 in the world according to TSN and Kopitar ranked 17th, behind like 4-5 other centers.

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