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Originally Posted by Baron von Kriterium
Point #1. Over the summer, a Saudi delegation went to Russia to discuss Syria, among other things. One of the Saudi proposals was for Russia to work on Assad and have him step down and, in exchange, the Saudis would move to send the price of oil higher. The Saudis also offered to reign in the Chechen terrorists. Putin declined and the Saudis left Russia in a huff. Shortly after, the Saudis supported the Iranian nuclear deal because they need some quid pro quo from the USA vis Syria/Yemen.
Suggesting an opinion that the Saudis backed this is one thing; however, proving it is another. This is why the narrative is steered towards ISIS or a mechanical failure. Without proof, the Russians will not / can't do anything directly to Saudi Arabia. I doubt a smoking gun will be found that points to the Saudis. All there is is speculation and not much direct action can be taken against speculation without making matters even worse in the region.
Thus, if the Russians truly believe the Saudis are behind this, you will likely see an increased level of assistance to the Houthis in Yemen. Houthis and other Shi'ites pressing the Kingdom from the south will be a huge problem.
Point 2. If you believe it is ridiculous, you are naive. The USA bombs civilians every single day of the year and no one cares. The US Navy brought down an Iranian airliner with not so much as a shoulder shrug. They bombed a hospital in Afghanistan and then fired on doctors who were running away. You think they'd have a problem turning a blind eye to the Saudis bringing down a Russian plane? People need to quit regarding the USA as some benevolent do-gooder and realize that they are capable of nasty stuff.
Point 3. The US government cares about the Saudi government because the Saudi government sells their oil in US dollars. Full stop.
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- The USA bombs civilians every single day of the year and no one cares.
Exaggerate much? or do you have a proof that shows every day of the year the USA bombs civilians, I suppose you think they do jumping-jacks and high-fives when someone dies from friendly fire.
it's war....it happens.
- The US Navy brought down an Iranian airliner with not so much as a shoulder shrug.
Shoulder shrug! They thought the airliner was military, minutes before, an Iranian gunship fired at the US warships helicopter and then an aircraft comes on radar, after numerous attempts to contact the crew of the flight on military and civilian radio frequencies they received no response they then shot it down. They paid the Iranian families over $60 million for that "mistake"
- They bombed a hospital in Afghanistan and then fired on doctors who were running away.
You left out the part where the Afghan forces called in the strikes, and it was the Afghans on the ground, should the US forces get a second opinion in a war zone before dropping the bombs?
You can choose to go all sceptic(other stuff you wrote) if you like but to suggest the USA would have anything to do with bombing a civilian aircraft out of the sky doesn't wash well with me.