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Old 11-04-2015, 08:43 PM   #236
JiriHrdina
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Originally Posted by TheAlpineOracle View Post
I'm not spinning anything in a negative light all. Everything I say is based on the past actions of Jays management and Rogers over two decades.

The problem is, there's a bunch of people that have now found the Jays again, had a great run to amp them up, and seem to think this is the norm and want to bury their head in the sand when people who've followed the team for years give some perspective as to what has historically occurred.

Sure what I'm saying is negative, but certainly isn't a "spin". Here's what I've harped on over the past month or so. Most of which has come pretty close to true (unfortunately).


- Giving up home advantage in the playoffs was ridiculous given the Jays stats on the road versus home, and shutting the team down early was a bad mistake....... Well it took 3 games for the Jays to wake up against Texas, and not having home advantage cost them dearly against KC. Now I don't think they would have beaten KC regardless, but being the visiting team surely put them behind the 8 ball.

- Gibbons, AA, or both should lose their job over the way the end of the season was handled...... I probably overreacted with AA, but I stand by the fact that Gibbons should have lost his job (he would have had they lost to Texas). In fact, the silver lining of Shapiro was that I figured we would be rid of Gibbons. Unfortunately that is not going to be the case. They'll wait until 2017 for that.

- After seeing AA's end of the year conference, I said I didn't feel he was going to re-up with Toronto because he wouldn't work under Shapiro and wasn't happy with likely a shrinking Budget over the next few years (gave a snarky remark about having to ask someone above his pay grade on budget at the press conference). Multiple posters said I was reading more into that than I should and was being negative....... It appears I was quite correct on that front, and fully stand by the comment that this debacle will further damage the bad reputation the Jays already have around the league.

- People were talking about resigning Price and Estrada and bolstering a couple holes in the lineup, and I said I doubt this given how cheap Rogers is and their propensity to not reinvest profits into the baseball club...... Can't be right or wrong on that yet, but watch Brunt's interview with Tim and Sid and read between the lines. This team will be nowhere near the top ten in the league on payroll once 2017 rolls around. They won't be reallocating the money they save when Bautista and Edwin leave

Call me negative all you want, but i'm not spinning anything.
Maybe not spin but you certainly have a glass half empty view of anything related to the Jays.
And for the record, I've been a fan of this team for 30 years.

Just because someone doesn't share your pessimistic view of the Jays that they have their "head in the sand". Maybe they just have a different opinion?
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