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- You will never get me to believe the Jays made any effort to win in Tampa. They started Buerhle on like one day's rest.

- Gibbons is not a good Manager. In his latest tenure he is under .500 right up until July Of this year when he was handed the keys to an all star team. He under achieved for two and half years. His game management is terrible, and leaning on his gut instead of looking at the stats costs the Jays all the time. He should have been gone before this season even started. Had they lost to Texas, he would have been canned.

- Are you really suggesting Jays fans should be grateful Rogers is keeping the same payroll? Both Rogers and the Jays are hedged on fx so it's not as big of deal as you think, and even if they weren't, these guys made a boatload of money on this run and aren't reinvesting a penny of in back in to the team which is the problem with the Jays in the first place.

- they aren't going to reduce payrolll, but they aren't going to be a contender if they don't increase it They desperately need pitching and don't have a single Prospect left to be renters at the deadline. Brunt flat out said they aren't going to be signing any pitchers when they fully intend on rebuilding in 2017. They are essentially wasting 2016 by keeping the status quo. I'm not even going to get into my thoughts on rebuilding. In a market the size of Toronto (well Canada), this team should be restocking through free agency not rebuilding. Even with Bautista and Edwin gone, they still have pillar, Donaldson, Martin, Tulo, and a Travis to build around.

- the general concensus among Jays fans was that they showed Rogers what they are capable of when They commit to fielding a winning team, this would change Rogers opinion on the team. Well it looks like that isn't the case, Rogers gonna do what Rogers gonna do.