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Old 11-03-2015, 07:23 PM   #352
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Originally Posted by jammies View Post
I don't know if any cities have tried it, but that doesn't mean it should never be tried. Especially when I'm not talking about banning entirely, but rather confining, and further separating out the two kinds of traffic, cyclists and vehicles. It does seem rather foolish to build cycle tracks that half the cyclists don't use, thereby clogging up roads for cars with their unpredictable shenanigans.

And before someone comes in a "nanny-state" argument, regulating traffic and optimizing vehicle behaviour is both necessary and prudent. Whether it's a good idea or not doesn't depend on some fantasy about someone's right to ride a bike wherever they please being violated.
To be fair, it isn't "some fantasy" that bikes are allowed on the road, so banning them on roads would be going against their current rights, and if the intention is to stop them riding on sidewalks, rather counter productive. If the goal is just to stop them from "clogging up the roads" I'd argue this is a fairly minor issue downtown.

So I'd ask, what is the end goal here? Stop cyclists from behaving like jerks and breaking the law? Eliminating bike lanes or banning them from roads isn't going to achieve that. If the end goal is to merely get them out of the way of cars then you may want to give up up that fight, it isn't going to happen.(and that "you" is not directed specifically at you, Jammies) I think to many times we make laws and policies with no real idea what the end goal is, we just hammer at symptoms of problems.
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