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Old 11-03-2015, 05:17 PM   #343
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Originally Posted by Fuzz View Post
I'm not sure why you need a "no bike zone".
Because of this:

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A sizeable amount of cyclests coming flying down 8th street instead of going one block over to 7th were the dedicated bike lane is. It's is a routine occurrence, and almost a constant in the summer months. They then cross on a red light onto 4th Avenue, and scoot across the 10th street bridge ringing their bell as they overtake pedestrians. This bridge is clearly marked "Cyclists must dismount".
Cyclists routinely disobey traffic signals and laws because they want to go fast and are are on a maneuverable platform that allows them much more latitude to do so and get away with it. Restricting them to a small subset of roads/paths helps control their movements, making it easier to enforce other laws upon them. Making them go slower and more carefully is a positive all by itself, just like not letting cars treat downtown streets like the Deerfoot is also a benefit.

I generally don't drive, and walk everywhere. There is simply no comparison between the percentage of cyclists that bike like morons and the percentage of cars that do the same. I can guarantee that if I walk more than 4-5 blocks along 5th street, for example, I will see at least one cyclist "stop" for a red light or flashing crosswalk by slowing down, glancing both ways then booking it. I might see one car turn left or be late on a red, but that'll be one car out of dozens and one cyclist out of 3 or 4.
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