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Originally Posted by Hackey
Whether or not racist people exist in organizations to the extent of not drafting players is probably unlikely. There are way too many people involved in that process and no one likely is going to want be the guy putting up that fight. Plus most people want to win. You might dislike black guys for example but you might prefer your job more. Most people probably wouldn't want their peers knowing unless their peers felt the same or even worse the story getting out to the media. I think hockey is filled with quality people so I don't see it as a big issue. The bad apples keep their hate quiet. Non-white players aren't exactly common in the NHL either so the opportunity for it happening is pretty low to begin with. I don't think drafting is the litmus test for whether or not racism exists though. That's pretty extreme.
We have plenty of examples that it does though and if guys like Subban and Kane say it does exist then personally I'm inclined to give them the benefit of the doubt more so than some random person who isn't them or lived their life. If you asked Kevin Weekes or Wayne Simmonds they would probably agree. Iggy to me isn't exactly the best example. Call it whatever you want but Iggy is very regular, very vanilla, very PC, tow the line. Despite that Im sure if you were talking to Iggy off the record he would have stories. So when guys like Kane do the money phone some wont care, some will think hes an idiot for it, some will be pissed because he's black. Just because some here dislike him for his actions doesn't mean others don't dislike him because of his race. And as I've said before the easiest way to be racist under the radar is to dislike someone because of "this or that" not because their black. Someone might have no issue with a person but then something comes up they dislike and all of a sudden their race might add to that dislike. Not trying to point the finger at anyone here for that but to not realize that possiblity would be kind of naive in my opinion.
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Whaddya know - I agree with a whole bunch of Hackey's post. Except it's "toe the line", not "tow". IMO any racism felt by the non-white guys in the NHL isn't because of management and probably not coaches either. It's more likely the subtle stuff - jokes in the locker room, comments by some fans or media, etc.
And the occasional overt stuff - the bananas chucked at Simmonds in Philly and at Weekes in Montreal. And giving some credence to what Kane says, according to some other pro athletes it's pretty bad in Manitoba.
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Originally Posted by Resurrection
Amazing argument. You just plug your ears and insist people are racist for not liking Kane. Really stellar stuff.
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He said some people dislike him because of what he does, others because of race.