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Originally Posted by CroFlames
Monahan is certainly a number 1 center. Do number 2 centers finish top 5 in Byng voting?
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Byng? really? It's an award that goes to the players who have the most points divided by PIM.
Look at votes 5 through 9:
5. Sean Monahan, CGY 232
6. Jason Pominville, MIN 205
7. Matt Moulson, BUF 150
8. Logan Couture, SJS 148
9. Ryan O'Reilly, COL 139
You mean one first place vote (probably a homer vote), and a 3rd, 4th, 5th place vote?
Which of the following are #1 Centers in your opinion?:
Joe Pavelski
Tomas Plekanec
Mikko Koivu
Derek Stepan
Zach Parise
Ryan O'Reilly
Carl Hagelin
Daniel Winnik
?
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Monahan plays a very strong two-way game,
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No, he doesn't. He plays a solid two-way game
for his age.
...Matt Stajan and Deryk Engelland "exhibit leadership" too. It's nice he's an alternate captain, but
so is Taylor Hall.
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Having a faceoff percentage hover around 50% is a good statistic.
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Well, no, it's a slightly-below average statistic.
Unsurprisingly, an exactly 50% faceoff percentage is... average.
Having a faceoff percentage hover around 55-60% is a good stastistic.
And no, 49% as a "#1 center" is not different from 50% as a Yelle type #3.
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Calgary was a bad possession team all around last year, so you can't realistically say Monahan is a "bad possession player".
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Monahan is a weak possession player
relative to centers on his own team, like Backlund.
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It's funny you add Getzlaf to the list of top tier centers, yet what has he done this year? If you are going off historical performance, then you have to take into account Mony's excellent 2nd year and conclude he is also a #1C who is having a bad start this year.
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This year? Sample size much?
Getzlaf is and has been a go-to center who was
2nd in Hart voting like, just over a year ago.
Hart. Not Lady Byng. You honestly believe Getzlaf and Monahan are remotely comparable? Wow.
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I legitimately doubt you write this post if the Flames were .500 and Mony was a plus player.
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Well you would be wrong. I'm not being fickle based on the start of the season, or the playoffs, or any small sample. My opinion is based on the two+ seasons he's been a Flame. He wasn't a #2 center his rookie year, he wasn't a #1 center last year, and he's not a #1 center right now. He could be a #1 Center but he's not one yet.