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Originally Posted by peter12
I'll take this to PM, but in terms of actual truth, your post didn't contain much. Obviously, the great reach, and capacity of modern engineering and commerce has given us standards of living that couldn't even have been dreamed of by anyone living before the last 100 years.
But to tie sophistication (worldly wisdom) to the consumerist, globalized world that we live in, and that mainly benefits the top 1-2%, is pretty ignorant.
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What's the point of taking it to .pm if you don't ever address any points I make directly?
When you claim that we aren't more sophisticated now than civilizations of the past, I explain why I believe we are. When you bring up the nuances of Catholic belief, I explain that not only do I understand the nuances, and how, but why they are irrelevant. On the other hand, when I ask you a direct question about papal infallibility, you avoid the question entirely - twice - and engage in some bafflegab about standards of living.
Debate is not where you make sententious statements and refer other people to books you've read, and then sit back and congratulate yourself on your insight. Nor is it redirecting the discussion whenever you find yourself in a position that has been discredited. Try getting out of the mindset of "I must instruct these plebes in correct thought!" and into one that is more aligned with *convincing* people who don't share your preconceptions and world-view.