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Originally Posted by IgiTang
People talking about Shore being a fringe NHL'er at the moment. Sure. Most 22 year olds are fringe NHL'ers at this point in their career.
We have been spoiled with our prospects as of late and I think people are losing sight of that. Gaudreau, Bennett, Monahan and to a lesser extent Ferland and Granlund are really exceptions to the rule.
Most guys are not NHL ready until they are 25 or so unless they have elite ceilings.
Meat and Potato guys like shore are the "long term" commitment type players that when they stay in the system and develope with the organization, they tend to be quite servicable bottom 6 guys or sometimes jump out to be exceptional talents.
It scares me to think of how people will view guys like Porier and potentially Klimchuk in a year or two. If they arent ready by 22 and 23, they are busts?!..
Not every player that comes through the pipeline are going to be fulltime NHL'ers by 23 and if they arent, they shouldnt be considered a bust.
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I do not agree with this statement but have no quantifiable data to back that up, much like yourself. But say we did live in a world where the majority of NHL players didn't become legit until their mid 20s, what are teams supposed to do? Their ELCs are long gone by then unless they're 4 year NCAA players. So they just keep them on the roster? Well that sucks for your roster because they're not NHL players yet. Expose them to waivers? That would be 'terrible' asset management? Trade them under the gun?
My point is, guys like Shore... If they don't stick right away, can't make noise in camp, have trouble making any impact at all... They are transient. Trade him? Expose him? Who cares? Frankly, I think he would pass through waivers at this point. GMs aren't clambering for camp cuts from other teams that they would need to stick on their roster and designate a contract to.
If coach thinks he's on the roster, sweet! I've watched him in one preseason game and have seen zero practices, so I have no idea. But if he's not top 14, cya! People who think he's tradable with Raymond or even tradable at all after a mediocre camp are lost in a dream world.
And not every single player that comes through your system needs to be upgraded on asset wise. Terrible asset management? These guys come and go for free.