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Old 09-02-2006, 03:15 PM   #14
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Thanks for the military lesson, Dwight.

Why should canada sacrifice the lives of their soldiers to mop up a mess created by another country, while trying to appease a puppet government that has shown a lack of leadership in any democratic avenue. They have RELIGIOUS POLICE there, again. This new 'democracy' in Afghanistan is a joke. I posted an article about this a couple of weeks ago here; meet the new boss, same as the old boss.

Because of the neglect of our armed services, canada doesn't have the strategic ability to project force in that kind of way. Canada as it stands right now needs a large scale infusion of cash if we plan on 'winning' this war. Canada also needs some political leadership and support, which has been sorely lacking amongst all 5 major parties. not to mention, we need American help, but they are busy cleaning up spilled milk somewhere else.

So what we're supposed to do is sacrifice our soldiers to secure foreign resources for contracts that would be better served going to our own country to help our own workforce? Sure makes a lot of sense to me.

Contrary to popular belief, Taliban-styled militia's ('neo-taliban') are still the ruling majority in Afghanistan. Outside of a few urban pockets like Kabul, afghanistan is still a barren wasteland fought over by the Taliban and various poppy growing warlords.

Read about the rosey picture in afghanistan, and how much progress canada's little band of soldiers is a making:

http://www.democracynow.org/article..../04/01/1432231

or here about how much better-off women are:
http://www.azadiradio.org/en/dailyreport/2006/08/15.ASP
http://www.un.org/apps/news/story.as...Cr=afghan&Cr1=

If canada is going to be involved with real, applicable democratic change in Afghanistan, then I'm all for it. If we're going to be the janitor who cleans up after American messes, then I say we should withdraw until such time as we are actually able to implement a real plan for security and democracy.
Umm.. This is a NATO and UN sanctioned war. Why must you obsess with the US constantly? This was UN mandated... You know, the same things all the lefties were screaming for in Iraq. And yet, as soon as the going get's tough in Afghanistan you still want to cut and run. Nice rep Canada would have. By the way, poll after poll has confirmed that the vast majority of the populace in Afghanistan DO NOT want the taliban back in power. How about you ask them why we should stay? Also, the constitution of Afghanistan guarantees equal rights. They are going to need the capacity to enforce it.

Link: http://65.109.167.118/pipa/articles/...t=155&lb=hmpg1

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Perhaps most telling, 82% said that overthrowing the Taliban government was a good thing for Afghanistan, with just 11% saying it was a bad thing. In the war zone, 71% endorsed the Taliban’s overthrow while 16% saw it as a bad thing; in the north, 18% saw it as a bad thing.
These views were held by large majorities of all ethnic groups, including the large Pashtun and Tajik groups and the smaller Uzbek and Hazara groups. The Pashtuns were less emphatic in their rejection of the Taliban, with 51% expressing a very unfavorable view of the Taliban as compared to 66-79% for the other groups.
Equally large percentages endorse the US military presence in Afghanistan. Eighty-three percent said they have a favorable view of “the US military forces in our country” (39% very favorable). Just 17% have an unfavorable view.
You are playng the politics of cowards. No other way to put it.
Isolationism is not an option in the globalized world and flowers in the end of the Canadians guns won't stop the taliban.

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