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Originally Posted by GranteedEV
First of all, That includes Chara last season, who was playing on one knee. I'm sure if you used a 2011-2013 Sample Chara would be better. Regardless it tells you that Chara is one of the best players in the NHL at limiting the highest quality types of shots. He might not be as far out as Mike Green, but he's also facing better top line players which is something that's not on that chart but can be observed by looking at supplementary stats or just watching the game. Mike Green is a middle pairing defenseman who's very strong in that role. Dennis Wideman is a middle pairing defenseman who is not so great in that role. Trading Dennis Wideman for Mike Green would be a no-brainer.
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Nope, no way I'm trading Wideman for Green. And I know that by watching the games. You'd be hard pressed to find a Flames fan who would agree to that trade, chart or no chart. Wideman's offence that he brings and his role as a PPQB more the makes up for his deficiencies defensively.
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Second, those are cold hard statistics for shots against in the slot and in the crease. If they disagree with your beliefs, there's nothing I or anyone can do about it. But you see they DO tell you Giordano/Brodie are two of the best players in the NHL at limiting high quality shots on goal. Does that also disagree with your beliefs? Look up cognitive bias.
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So going by your description, it also tells me that Pietrangelo is terrible at limiting high quality shots on goal. Worse then Phaneuf. Is that true also? Is that a cold hard fact?
I'll wait until the season starts and watch with my own two eyeballs to determine how effective a player like Dennis Wideman is/isn't on the PP, which was my whole argument to begin with. I've gone too far into this advanced stats debate and trapped myself in an endless cycle.