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Old 09-07-2015, 09:52 AM   #272
Camronius
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Originally Posted by GGG View Post
Your confusing the situation here. If the flames didn't participate, or if any individual doesn't participate in an anti-racism parade or pride parade that doesn't make them racist or homophobic. They might be but not participating in something doesn't really tell you anything.

If the flames chose to participate in an anti racism parade and people told them they shouldn't and should stick to hockey, while all the other community service they do is acceptable then yes the people who are saying they shouldn't participate would be racist.

The second point about jerseys, do you disagree with pink jerseys for breast cancer and pink NFL month? If so then your anti rainbow jersey position would be consistent and based on a reasonable argument. If you are okay with jerseys being modified for one cause but not others you have to evaluate what your motives are and they are likely based in homophobia. So in your case you are anti jersey modification for causes which is reasonable.

I think people are uncomfortable with the statement that if you think the flames should stick to hockey instead of March you are homophobic is that a lot of people with that opinion have come along way toward acceptance. They probably are okay with them getting married, and having sex behind closed doors and may think They could accept it if it wasn't flaunted in their face. I know lots of people who have made it this far (and it is a long way from the hate they started with) who wouldn't consider themselves homophobic. The flames Marching brings it to the forefront and makes them have to think about dudes kissing and bum sex and that makes them uncomfortable. That is homophobia.

If you have been to San Franciso their are billboards advertising Gay clubs the same way the Cowboys bill boards are here. And they have bus adds for gay wedding boutique stores. If that were in Calgary their would be protests over the billboards. So Calgary has a long way to go.

Saying the flames should stick to hockey is saying that you are uncomfortable with homosexuality being displayed in public.
I'm not sure how I portrayed that I'm confused about the issue. I'm very specific about what issue I'm talking about. I'm pretty sure that you didn't read my post, because I specifically address the pink hitmen jersey thing. So if you're picking 2 lines out of a couple of paragraphs and trying to respond to me, it doesn't really make for a productive conversation. That being said just because I don't like the modification for rainbows for one cause, but may be ok with a completely different alteration for a different cause does not equate to motives that are likely being homophic. That's an unfair conclusion and that's actually the crux of my point. People can have dissenting opinions for a variety of reasons, but because it's a sensitive topic people get overbearingly defensive and just assume hate is the motive.

FWIW I don't agree at all with your last statement on it's own. You're drawing the conclusion that because someone doesn't agree with your view, or someone else's view on this topic, then it's because they are homophobic.
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