[Street Pharmacist]

Originally Posted by 2Stonedbirds

They have seen the same trends in overall homicide rates as other comparable nations since the 60's. Their overall firearm homicide rates have dropped slightly and now have plateaued. Handgun offenses have doubled even though they are completely banned, and make up for over 57% of all firearm offenses.

There was also the Cumbria murders in 2010, which left 13 dead and 11 wounded.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...rate_by_decade

https://www.gov.uk/government/upload...3/hosb0212.pdf

Looking at "overall homicide" obfuscates the argument and you're doing it deliberately. Most murders are crimes of passion, and while some will reach for a knife or their bare hands, outcomes are better.

If we're looking at "overall homicide" then suddenly the UK had a murder spike right after the handgun ban. What that doesn't tell you is that most of that spike is the discovery of a physician who was charged with 171 counts of murder over a very long period of time. The homicides all get lumped in, but they're part of your stats there.

We're not trying to end murder, we're trying to end firearm crimes. Do you know how many homicides there were by firearm last year in the UK? 14