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Originally Posted by 2Stonedbirds
No, you wont quote my post because you can't refute any of it.
And now we have been Goodwined. Interesting to note that the country you chose to bring up, at that time in history, had a absolute firearms ban for civilians. You would actually bring up and compare a fascist country such as WW2 era nazi Germany, who was kicking sand in the worlds collective face, was involved in genocide, practically invented the practice of police state, and compare it to a free country such as modern USA. You're right, WW2 era Germany IS a bad example.
Australia does not have a constitutionally protected right to own firearms. Another bad example.
What about it?
You are associating firearm ownership with capital punishment, because in your mind....
You view them both as barbaric. Which speaks more to your irrational fear of inanimate objects than anything to do with the structure of society, which in the US was built from their own self determination. Not by a dictator. (lol @ nazi Germany)
Did you know your chances of drowning increase if you have a pool in your backyard? Mind blowing stuff, right? The key is education, something you refuse because in the end, it doesn't take away the rights of over 315 million Americans. Which is what you want.
Now THIS is funny!
A: I'm not American.
B: The NRA influence does not cross their borders as I cannot support them in any way shape or form. Their rhetoric is lost on me.
C: Tell Americans a blanket Federal law has been passed banning all handguns and semi auto loading firearms and see exactly how hard the crap hits the propeller.
Maybe your old man and his buddies should have convinced 17th century Americans to "just give up" and allow for their future to be determined by royalty halfway across the planet? Maybe your buddies should have pushed harder for this "common sense" reform that you want before we have the perceived problem we have today? Why is the onus on the "pro gun" side to make this right, when they are operating within the confines of the law? Again, gun homicide has been steadily dropping for 30 years. 150 million new firearms have been purchased by private citizens in the last 20 years. People like you claim that "more guns equal more crime" yet these stats fly in the face of your unsubstantiated claims and actual stats don't seem to hinder you or your ideological push to screw people over when it comes to their rights.
I assume you live in Southern California? Tell you what. Go and put a big sign in front of your house or in your front window that says..
"This is a gun free home"
Do it. Gun free zones are proven safe right? California has the strictest regulations regarding firearms ownership, right up to a registry for all handguns and a ban on "scary" black guns. So you're good to go right? Do it. Prove to yourself and everyone else that a gun free zone is just an awesome place to be.
Still curious how you can, in your words... "I get my hands on any number of high capacity weapons" when you are not a US citizen. Without of course, breaking the law.
So go ahead and prove how awesome gun free zones work and advertise your place of residence as such.
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Well I'll quote this one, but quoting a post that had past quotes in it looks silly, but whatever. I CAN refute any and all gun arguments you say. It's literally just common sense. Common sense tells you look at Canada, Australia, Britain or any number of western nations similar in HDI , GDP per capita and culture to America. Look at their gun laws. Look at the gun violence rates. What more is there to discuss?
I should preface the rest of this post saying that I am a born and raised Calgarian, I grew up around hunting, and yes I live in So Cal now. I like guns. I know a lot about guns. I am by most accounts a 'conservative' person.
I don't find guns scary and I also believe there are millions of gun owners who will never commit a crime with their gun, nor shoot themselves with it, or have an accident in their home. However, the fact of the matter is that America has a ton of gun violence. You can be either of the opinion this needs to change, or it's just a fact of life that can't be changed.
I absolutely believe the right of 315 million Americans needs to be taken away. The law was written hundreds of years ago in a completely different context. The laws need to be updated, pure and simple. There will be backlash, yes, but not as much as you think. The vast majority of Americans would want a safer society, and the status quo is not it.
By the way, the sign in my front window would probably have no effect. I live in one of the safest neighborhoods in the entire nation. I know you are implying that pockets of gun free zones aren't safe, and you are correct. If I lived in Compton and put up a sign like that, yes I would get robbed because many folks there have guns. The fact is, if the VAST MAJORITY of the WHOLE NATION don't have guns, it makes it a safer place. Any law that gets enacted, which boils down the the 2nd amd, needs to be nation-wide to be effective.
Curious about how I can get firearms? Even been to some backwater town in the desert with a gun show? Nevermind all that legal stuff if you pay cash.