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Originally Posted by 2Stonedbirds
Yes, America does. They may or may not have liberal laws, depending on the state. Correlation doesn't equal causation however. Mexico for instance has near firearm prohibition. They have some of the worst firearm related crime rates in the world. They are also perpetually stuck in the middle of drug wars, and corrupt politicians. So there are social issues there driving gun crime. Not guns. So it doesn't always make for a safer society. The problem with such a ban as well is that it takes rights and property away from the law abiding. It will not hurt criminals whatsoever, and that should be the target. Which IMO can be done and at the same time still respect Americans 2nd amd rights.
Some posters have stated they want to see a handgun and semi auto ban, nationwide. Federal legislation to provide for that WILL require an amendment to the 2nd amd. So that is where the nation will have to go if they want those laws implemented.
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First off, I was talking about Americas allies and other wealthy nations. Mexico is not a good comparison. America should compare herself to Britain, Germany, Canada and other such nations.
Secondly, the 'rights' of the law abiding need to be amended simple as that. It's unfortunate, but the way democracy works is that when a few bad apples screw it up for everyone else, everyone else suffers.
Thirdly, yes criminals will very much so suffer. It's simply supply and demand. America currently has let's say 300 million firearms in the hands of citizens. If the 2nd amd is repealed, and a buy back program instituted, and further production of firearms is vastly restricted, the supply drops. Let's now say that there are only 50 million guns in America after the program the majority of which are hunting rifles and shotguns, and only about 50,000 AR-15s compared to the several million before the buy-back. What do you think happens to the price of AR-15s on the black market? Do you think a low-level criminal can afford a $30k AR-15? A $50k AR-15? Do you think high-level criminals are going to be conducting gun violence?
But CroFlames, what about people who manufacture their own guns? That ban needs to happen as well. The law-abiding become non-law abiding if they continue the practice.
I'm not even a citizen of America, and I get my hands on any number of high capacity weapons at a very reasonable cost. And that is the kicker. This stuff is CHEAP.