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Old 09-01-2015, 10:23 AM   #2072
2Stonedbirds
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Originally Posted by CroFlames View Post
Can't you just look at it in a macro sense instead of nitpicking?

America has much higher gun violence rates than it's allies and other developed nations. You can't argue this.

America has the most liberal gun laws compared to said nations.

Can't you put two and two together and realize that if the end goal is safer society, then gun laws similar to the other nations needs to be instituted and the 2nd amendment amended?
Yes, America does. They may or may not have liberal laws, depending on the state. Correlation doesn't equal causation however. Mexico for instance has near firearm prohibition. They have some of the worst firearm related crime rates in the world. They are also perpetually stuck in the middle of drug wars, and corrupt politicians. So there are social issues there driving gun crime. Not guns. So it doesn't always make for a safer society. The problem with such a ban as well is that it takes rights and property away from the law abiding. It will not hurt criminals whatsoever, and that should be the target. Which IMO can be done and at the same time still respect Americans 2nd amd rights.

Some posters have stated they want to see a handgun and semi auto ban, nationwide. Federal legislation to provide for that WILL require an amendment to the 2nd amd. So that is where the nation will have to go if they want those laws implemented.
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