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Old 08-31-2015, 07:10 AM   #1243
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Like we should invade Iraq again?

I think we should learn to mostly stay out of other peoples civil wars as our last interference just made things worse. The thing is it looks like ISIS is doing everything it can to get the West involved with troops on the ground. The only reason I can see is to paint the West the as the invaders so they can unite all Arabs against us. We may win some battles for sure but we'll lose the war because they don't want us there, just as the Vietnamese didn't want us there.

Here's a quote from C S Lewis.

It's a difficult subject because yeah we should supply food and medical aid to the displaced who have voted with their feet but getting involved in their political wars, no.

edit laugh because ISIS has managed to combine being robber barons while being moral busybodies as well.
Personally, I don't think Conservatives even really care about the atrocities or oppression of ISIS (of course we are all appalled regardless of political affiliation). The desire to intervene is a more pragmatic one than an altruistic one.

A) You can't do business with ISIS, so it's hard to make money from ISIS;

B) The mass migrations and human trafficking are testing the economic, social and culture institutions of many Western countries, particularly in Europe;

C) For the hard-core conservatives, they are afraid that the human migrations from the ME are going to contribute to the Islamification of the West over the next generation.

Actually helping people living there is more of a way of keeping them there and worrying about terrorist attacks in Canada is just a diversion. And to be honest, it makes sense on a lot of levels. Someone has to rebuild those countries and be a moderate voice in the region. If all the moderates leave, what hope is there?

While I agree that we should help on the humanitarian side, I don't think supporting an exodus is the answer.
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