After reading the entire thread, here are my conclusions:
1) The flames may or may not need a new arena in the near future, but probably need one within the next 20 years. That gives the team up to 12 years to start an arena project.
2) The $200m fieldhouse is primarily going to be an amateur facility, so it should be built in a place that encourages maximum amateur participation. If that location is different from the optimal location for the Flames new arena, the field house and hockey arena should be built separately rather than put them together to save a few dollars.
3) From the point of view of the city, it may be too early to develop the west village area while the east village development has a long way to go. If the flames want help from the city to develop the area, it should be done on the city's timeline rather than the flames.
Conclusions:
1) Fieldhouse should be in an area that is optimal for amateur sports. If Stampeders want to ride along, they should pay for all upgrades required to make it a dual facility. They should also be doing it on the city's timeline, since the city would be doing the Stampeders a favor by letting them tag along for incremental costs only.
2) If the flames want to build this arena in the west village, they should wait until the city is ready to develop the land. Could be upwards of a decade given that focus should be on East Village right now.
3) When the West Village is ready to be developed, the frame of funding changes in favor of the flames: for a $550m event and sporting facility, the flames and ticket holders are paying $450m. Very generous of the flames in my opinion. Environmental remediation, and infrastructure would be done as part of development rather than done for the flames. I think its pretty fair for the city to pay $100m - there are some public benefits for the arena and event center, and it would help kickstart development. And the city would have to build public transport infrastructure anyways at that time.
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