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Originally Posted by Bunk
I think on local residential roads and collectors the default speed should be 30km/h anyway. 50 is too fast.
Even better, we need to design our streets (much narrower) so it feels completely unnatural and unsafe to be going over 30 in residential areas. We have designed our roads so that going really fast feels natural and safe to the driver. It's a public safety hazard we've created for ourselves.
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Originally Posted by CliffFletcher
Yep. The worst is the long, curving, broad roads that cut through suburban neighbourhoods. People drive them too fast, and they become a hazard to anyone - especially kids - walking or bicycling in their neighbourhood. Straight, narrow streets with lots of stop signs and crosswalks make for walkable neighbourhoods.
And to pre-empt the Won't Someone Think About the Children jpg: Yes, I think residential neighbourhoods where family housing is prevalent should be designed and managed with children in mind. If you don't like it, buy a condo in the beltline.
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I think this issue is why we see some many kids riding their bikes on the sidewalk. I am teaching the kids to ride on the road. Teaching them the rules of the roade.
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Originally Posted by Iggy City
I agree with narrower roads as well, but keep in mind winter conditions with snow build up and clearing.
How do the northern European countries do it?
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If snow removal on the road is done properly is it pushed onto the area between the road and sidewalk (I can't think of the name of that to save my life).