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Old 08-18-2015, 02:11 PM   #31
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Originally Posted by Vulcan View Post
IMO there is no way in hell Klimchuk goes back to junior. His only problem is that we've got too many young forwards vying for a job.
Not on LW. After Agostino there's no one in Stockton to keep Klimchuk out of a spot. His best competition is Elson, which is good but not someone who'd keep him from playing.

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We are not talking about showing up and playing at an NHL level..... being a bit better than David Jones, Colborne, Stajan or Backlund
...Except for how Jones and Stajan and Backlund were just as good or better, past the commotion of "big hits".

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In the 6 game playoff series against the Canucks Ferland was dominate.... a game and series changer.
The adjective you're looking for is "dominant", dominate is a verb.

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Klimchuck was the #28 pick overall. He is 6 months YOUNGER than a Flames #21 pick overall, but there is no hue and cry that he is not playing in the AHL this year.
Because he is playing in the AHL?

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As well Sieloff (a d-man who takes longer to develop and had a freak year off) has a AHL year under his belt and is 3 months older than Jankowski and this, to many, is his last chance make or break year.... he needs to dominate at the AHL level.
He needs to show progress. Three year's after his draft he's essentially where he was in his draft year.

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I would like to see Klimchuck in the AHL but if he goes back to Brandoit would not mean that his chances at the NHL are over
No one said his chances at the NHL are over if he goes back to Brandon. But he's not going back to Brandon.

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Why is patience and slow but steady development OK for some but others it is either either in the NHL or Busts by the time they are 22?
Some (Klimchuk) play in Junior leagues against 16 year olds with Junior systems and Junior lifestyles. Junior leagues are not optimal for development. As soon as players are eligible players are turned pro to develop in the AHL. It's fine for 17/18 year olds but once players turn 19, 20 they have little to gain from returning and playing against competition they've pretty much outdeveloped and outgrown.

Others (Jankowski, Arnold, Hickey, Agostino, Gaudreau) Play(ed) in mens leagues against grown men with pro systems and more strict nutrition/exercise regimines. It's not uncommon for good prospects to spend a full four years getting their degree. Nashville's Jimmy Vesey, a very high-end prospect, will be returning for his senior year. This is not a problem because the level of play is reasonably high.

The NCAA as a developmental league not far behind the AHL, though it does depend greatly on which program a player goes to (Denver vs BC for example).
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